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Wednesday, 8 September 2010

T.F.S Part 9 Discussions [SPOILERS]

Hi all,

Sorry for the delay. Feel free to write anything below about the episode.

Hope you all enjoyed the 30 minutes of extreme pain I spent 8 months doing :)

Can't wait for Reach...

Good Times.

Regards
Darknal

120 comments:

Lord Zebedee said...

It was awesome

Stormray said...

Conan coming back as a Flood... it explains how he went "missing", and how he can even be alive again. The Flood can still infect dead bodies and re-infect already infected dead bodies. Awesome use of the original Halo story to back up your own. Kudos, Chris.

PixelTeamProductions said...

I loved Stormray's little hornet to hornet run.

What a way to take down Banshees.

And loved how you introducted the flood into the story...had a hunch that was coming seeing as Librius' chamber is on Cold Storage.

Anyway, excellent work Chris...big ups to your brothers and the rest of the cast.

Kind reagrds
Dave Golden (DG TKO157)

Irish Machinima said...

conan becomes a complete badass and survives countless shots to the face that is all!

Shadow Plaque said...

Lol conan not infected by flood his voice broke alot later on than expected. So don't worry he's fine. Or he really is infected or his voice things broken or he goes lol just kidding.

Can't wait for Reach word of advice don't go on for the first few weeks the servers will crash haha halo go by by.
My advice get for Christmas just watchout for the Noobs Spamming armour lock online.

Haha Halo go by by on first few weeks.
Can't wait for more Darknal. I suggest makin some shorts for viewers like "goodbye Halo 3" <--- not exactly that kinda thing if comedy isn't ur type but good luck on the shorts (if u make any) and good luck on episode 10.

Anonymous said...

I think you deserve a rest after making part 9 maybe take a rest till after christmas, it will give you time to mess around on reach too

Anonymous said...

anyone agree that feinaro died really stupid?? and the new guy mitch is kinda different from what we'd expect? i thought snipers qould be cool but not him

Mac-x said...

I have to say that the episode totally and completely surpassed my expectations (which were already high) Everything was perfectly done. Feinaro's death, the beginning first person view with Mitch. the new effects. and conan at the end. I really thought it was an amazing piece of art. And as others have said, don't pay attention to what some people say, take a rest for now. We all think you deserve it, and episode 9 will hold us for maybe even a whole year. Good job

Anonymous said...

best action machinima series evar!! conan is a flood witch is weird cuz it was on valhala. i dont know wat darknal is going to do next or even how episode are left but im looking forward to it. u should have some rest for a while, for reach and a little break from it all. It chould be cool if a behind the scenes comes out so we can see how u do it. Great jobs on all your work, ive been a fan since day 1 and thank you to darknal and the body and voice actors!!

Machinima said...

So the series main characters are Conan, Cosmic and Darknal. Conan's been out of the picture for too long so he's not even really a main character at this point. As to Cosmic and Darknal, they barely have any influence on the plot. Most of the action on Avalanche just takes place between hordes of Spartans and hordes of Elites, they barely contribute there. Cosmic had his own fight scene in this ep, true, but he barely had any dialogue and what dialogue he did have made him look like a massive tool.

As to Darknal, he's pretty much been eclipsed by Stormray and the Chief at this point. Darknal's not the one responsible for pushing the action forward, nine times out of ten it's Stormray. Honestly, Darknal and Cosmic could simply be cut out of the series entirely at this point and I doubt you'd have to change much.

There are also the trivial details like how neither of them have distinct personalities, discernible character motivations, or any redeeming or positive qualities to speak of. As far as characters go, they're about as bland as you can get. The only reason I remember them is because of their stupid names.

UAstudios said...

Jesus Christ. Machinima going on somebodies blogsite and writing a public review for them? Incredible. And The machinima guy was correct too, as much as I enjoy watching masses of Elites charge against under-manned spartan armies, its got to stop... Its getting old, and with new charachters you never really get to become connected to them as much as you used to, I think it's a good idea and everything I just think it's time you slow things down, drop the battles, maybe pick up some suspense building episodes. Just my advice. But you still make great machinima's man! And I cracked up when I saw what irish Machinima said.

No.1 Fan of Darknal said...

Darknal if u r the best, and u r the real machinima maker!! i dont know why machinima has random montages of cod and other games, i thought machinima meant a movie made on a machine or something oh well,, thanks again darknal,

i hope conan comes back to a normal spartan so he can kick ass again,, or u should like turn it into a zombie movie so like all the spartans and elites hold hands to survive from waves of infected spartans and elites haha that would be cool

no 1 fan again said...

no if on first sentence haha

Stormray said...

First of all, that's not the real "Machinima", or anyone that works for Machinima. It's just a troll. His IP is actually from New York, which is across the continent from California.

Secondly, if you had kept up with the series since part one, you would clearly be able to distinguish the characteristics of each Spartan. Cosmic is the "I don't give a fuck" Spartan of the group, which can easily be deciphered simply by listening to what he says in battle. Such as "It's been a while since I've tea-bagged somebody." Conan was the "Get it done." type of Spartan, which his huge weapons and his mind always set on the objective. Darknal was the born leader. Plain and simple.

In Part 6 where the plot picks back up after Part 3, the character "Stormray" seemingly fills the hole in everyone's heart that Conan left behind. He shares the same "Get it done." attitude that Conan did. The green shoulders represent the rank of General in the UNSC, so obviously Stormray is going to be the one who decides which action to take next once trouble has started it's course.

Furthermore, Master Chief's plot twist in the series is a complete gem of an idea. It show's just how creative Chris can be, by taking that probability and making it a reality. Nobody knew what the fuck happened to Chief at the end of Halo 3, so who is anyone to say that THIS couldn't have happened?

Stormray said...

Also, stupid names? You DO realize that Chris tied in all of our internet nicknames with the series. He didn't have to do it, but he felt it would form a nice relationship with the Machinima community, which it did, and especially with Kootra. Do you have any idea how amazed Kootra's fans must be to see him and his name in this series? As well as Guitarmasterx7? Surely you could fathom such envy, as I'm sure you have heroes and idols as well. Shit, Chris even poked fun of himself in his "Fan Message" about using his own nickname as the main character's name.

And I don't know about you, but back in 1999 when I was twelve years old and conjured up the name "Stormray" using the idea of storm clouds and the light that can shine through gaps of them during a thunderstorm - I had no idea that I would be seeing my name up in a film that has over a million fans. Let me tell you something, asshole, that sure means something to me.

And that fact that not only did Chris throw it up into his credit roll, but NAME a MAIN CHARACTER after it... just leaves me astounded.

Now - go troll someone else's blog, "Machinima".

TrippyHobo said...

Way to own "Machinima" Stormray haha. Great Machinima by the way, can't wait to see what's next.

TrippyHobo said...

Oh, and I definitely agree on taking a break, come around like maybe January? Haha. You have put an OUTSTANDING effort into this Machinima.

Anonymous said...

darknal best machinima ever!!!!! don't take any crap from anyone. and nice going stormray! you told him.

p.s. darknal or anyone willing to help im going to make a machinima of halo and i need help on how to do it. if you darknal or anyone can email me at brandongonzalez61@yahoo.com that'd be great!

Machinima said...

@Stormray Dude you actually act like this a REAL movie.Its not,although its great and I have to give it to Thake for making such an amazing machinima but the story is to bland but hey its just an opinion.Im not going to say that its a horrible machinima but it needs work on the story because if any character died it would not change the story because its mostly Spartans v.s ELites.So dont get an attitude over something so trivial.So maybe you should stop being a fanboy.Also what you said about the characters dosent hcnage anything because they are unoriginal.Also even though it dosent matter my name is Daemon.

Hudson's Review said...

The beginning does sorta dragged on for some time and it was unnecessary. There was nothing special of anything unique about this begging part. It felt like it was an overused idea and was there just to fill the time.

Mitch, the name. Really? Out of all the names that seem cool like Kootra, Stormray, and Conan, they pick their next character as Mitch? I don't know about you guys but it was really hard to believe that a serial known for its abnormal character names would come up with such a thing. Also, why would Darknal pick out a random ODST soldier to come with him instead of picking an identical soldier?

Next, the conversation between the Sanghili general and Libprius. It was rushed. Libprius jumped to his thoughts too quickly. Furthermore, isnt this the guy that "wanted their skulls crushed"? I think so, and now he is saying he wants to settle a deal with the Spartans. Please take more time in explaining. And now he says that the Arbiter taught him stuff about the Spartans, why didn't he mention this before? One last thing I need to point out. He said that now 2 spartans are now dead, and refers to Conans demise. This got me confused. An average audience would have presumed that they referenced Conan's death, approximately 5 minutes after Cosmic left the scene like an emo (along the famous "Avenge meh c0zmik" line). It took some time for me to realize this but the "first" spartan they were actually referring to was the girl spartan (in pink armour funnily enough) that died almost a year or so before part 8.

The end of Cosmic's "battle". I felt like the last part of the action was too lazy. I would expect some intense action shots of the elites getting killed. The explosions didn't help either, for they looked more real life than in the game.

Escaping the battle, killing off a voice actor is lazy. Talomane (or however you spell it) was only in part 8 as a cameo and killed off in this part. Bit quick don't you think?

The small battle. 2 elites, 4 Spartans (and Mitch). Why couldn't the spartans quickly kill the elites? They clearly had a decent amount of firepower to quickly take down two elites. Why did the elite kill Feonaro quickly but took time on Kootra? Furthermore, WHY THE HELL IS MITCH A DREADFUL SNIPER WITHOUT THE BALLS TO FINISH HIM OFF???

And back to Cosmic. This time saving Darknal. Where the hell did he come from? The general directing that Cosmic came from could only mean that he came through the same way as the others. Wait. Didnt Cortana seal off the enterance? I think she did. And yet Cosmic manages to get through something that took 6 months to open, in possibly a split second? Was there a fucking air duct or something? And if there was, how come the other spartans didn't even suggest a thing?

We have Spartans vs Elites. But at least we do not have the Flood and- oh fuck, Libprius just introduced us to the Flood. Thats the icing on the cake.

And then there is the elite that came to Libprius, whom was talking to spartans. Why didn't the elite even question his actions? I would have suspected the elite to open fire.

And finally, the ending. Mega dramatic crap to do with Conan. This time returning. And yes, its slightly more dramatic than the famous "Av3nge meh Cozmik" line.

Overall, this kept me questioned. I would give this a 7/10. Darknal, this series has come awesome action scene, brilliant choreography, and emense editing, but please, for the love of god, get some fucking writing lessons.

Hudson's Review said...

The beginning does sorta dragged on for some time and it was unnecessary. There was nothing special of anything unique about this begging part. It felt like it was an overused idea and was there just to fill the time.

Mitch, the name. Really? Out of all the names that seem cool like Kootra, Stormray, and Conan, they pick their next character as Mitch? I don't know about you guys but it was really hard to believe that a serial known for its abnormal character names would come up with such a thing. Also, why would Darknal pick out a random ODST soldier to come with him instead of picking an identical soldier?

Next, the conversation between the Sanghili general and Libprius. It was rushed. Libprius jumped to his thoughts too quickly. Furthermore, isnt this the guy that "wanted their skulls crushed"? I think so, and now he is saying he wants to settle a deal with the Spartans. Please take more time in explaining. And now he says that the Arbiter taught him stuff about the Spartans, why didn't he mention this before? One last thing I need to point out. He said that now 2 spartans are now dead, and refers to Conans demise. This got me confused. An average audience would have presumed that they referenced Conan's death, approximately 5 minutes after Cosmic left the scene like an emo (along the famous "Avenge meh c0zmik" line). It took some time for me to realize this but the "first" spartan they were actually referring to was the girl spartan (in pink armour funnily enough) that died almost a year or so before part 8.

The end of Cosmic's "battle". I felt like the last part of the action was too lazy. I would expect some intense action shots of the elites getting killed. The explosions didn't help either, for they looked more real life than in the game.

Escaping the battle, killing off a voice actor is lazy. Talomane (or however you spell it) was only in part 8 as a cameo and killed off in this part. Bit quick don't you think?

The small battle. 2 elites, 4 Spartans (and Mitch). Why couldn't the spartans quickly kill the elites? They clearly had a decent amount of firepower to quickly take down two elites. Why did the elite kill Feonaro quickly but took time on Kootra? Furthermore, WHY THE HELL IS MITCH A DREADFUL SNIPER WITHOUT THE BALLS TO FINISH HIM OFF???

And back to Cosmic. This time saving Darknal. Where the hell did he come from? The general directing that Cosmic came from could only mean that he came through the same way as the others. Wait. Didnt Cortana seal off the enterance? I think she did. And yet Cosmic manages to get through something that took 6 months to open, in possibly a split second? Was there a fucking air duct or something? And if there was, how come the other spartans didn't even suggest a thing?

We have Spartans vs Elites. But at least we do not have the Flood and- oh fuck, Libprius just introduced us to the Flood. Thats the icing on the cake.

And then there is the elite that came to Libprius, whom was talking to spartans. Why didn't the elite even question his actions? I would have suspected the elite to open fire.

And finally, the ending. Mega dramatic crap to do with Conan. This time returning. And yes, its slightly more dramatic than the famous "Av3nge meh Cozmik" line.

Hudson's Review said...

Hudson's Review for this episode

http://virtualflicks.net/forum/index.php?/topic/5405-hudson-reviews-the-forgotten-spartans-part-9/page__pid__71113__st__0&#entry71113

Anonymous said...

Okay Darknal,
Could you clear up the arguement on Conan's Status. As to if he's the Flood or if he's just back to kick some ass. The only thing that would make him the flood (in my mind) is that sword he pulled out and that sound he made.
I know Stormray said he was the flood but Darknal if you could post something explaining it.
Thnaks
P.S. Stormray I loved the hornet Jump to kill the Banshee and I liked Darknal's Chopper Hijack.
P.S.S. About Mitch, I liked the in battle scenario. I think he's gonna stay behind when the Ring blows up.

UAstudios said...

Understood Stormray, thats BEFORE 4 new + charachters hoped into the storyline. I don't have much an idea about those guys, is all

Anonymous said...

This Question is Directed at people like Stormray, GuitarMasterX7, Feonaro, and Kootra:
When you are in the shoots for the episode does Darknal say okay you are goin to do this which will lead to that....or does he say okay you have a 30 second solo scene. Do what you want.
Thanks,

Read this or you get teabagged by Mitch said...

OMG, I was laughing so much of the battle between stormray and machinima. its just stupid. But anyway now to my opinion, "Best movie everrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Nothing in the world is better than this machinima. from part 6 to whatever it may be was like i was watching something that shouldnt be out until 100 years later. dude how the fuck did you make cortana and the explosion in part nine. Anyways idea for part 10, it would be unhaloistic if conan was the only flood cause the flood main job is to infect and all this time if conan hasnt infected someone that would be extremely gay. And also to destroy the bleeding ring. Please do not make any of the spartans do it i love them, make mich do it, he sucks. well he doesnt but he just a normal soldier so no one cares about him. And also darknal you are sexist!!! There was only 1 main girl character and that was dalfeenie however you spell that. GET SOME GIRLS INTO IT DUDE. STOP THE SEXISM! seriously! Thank you for reading this extremely long comment!!!

Anonymous said...

Hay Im different to everyone but I have always followed in your guys footsteps but I have never been in a movie and well I love your guys seris so much that I have tried so many times to get in but do you reckon I can help in part 10 please cause I think you guys are the best people to make a movie so please if you want me to help just please send me a message at camrules274@yahoo.co.nz please I would really like to be a main charecter just like mitch.
AsteroidHALO 3

Darknal said...

Hi Guys,

Thanks for all your comments. I love some of the reviews, genius stuff.

Keep them coming.
Darknal

UAstudios said...

I think your machinima's are great Darknal, but as I have said before, slow down on the storyline please. I can understand you need a climax to the plot, but it seems like theres been at least 2 climax's.

And I think that "read this or get t-bagged' was a little over dramatic, Im sure it's not the BEST THING IN THE WHOLE WORLD. But it's still Great. :)

Suicidal Cow Productions said...

Darknal dont take any Advice from these retards who dont even make machinimas. Your writng is awesome, all the voice actors rock, the characterare kickass the battles our just badass, and Conan back to life is just what ur fans asked for and you even added a little twist to his rebirth by flood.Very epic and very awesome.
And kudos to ur brother for the amazing animations. The whole TFS (not Team Four Star) crew should take a break from all the work (especially you and ur brother) recharge, and play some Reach till you feel you should start up part ten.
Great Job to the whole TFS crew.

Machinima said...

Excuse me but we do make machinimas and telling Darknal not to take any advice is horrible advice.Thats basically that his machinima is perfect and dosent need to chage one bit.

Anonymous said...

what darknal means by 2 spartans is conan of course he came back as flood and dolphini i sniper girl that dies in part five i think that he might put in infected dolphini in part 10 of course its just my opion

Anonymous said...

o great job i can wait for part 10 unlike most fanboys....im annyon above

Anonymous said...

Darknal take as long as you like you totally deserve it took 8 months you deserve nearly an entire year for a break and get back to ur old life for a while the video was great peace TIGERSHARKGREG

Dark Neptune said...

At this point of time Darknal, I have no friggin idea how you can make part 10 in Reach. There's not even a single damn snowy Multiplayer map in it. :P

In my honest opinion, the Mich character was uneeded. Because at this point of the series, it's time to get Down & Dirty & Intimate with the last few remaining characters, and stop introducing new ones. Simply put, make fight scenes more intense on a smaller scale: More Elites/Flood v.s. a handful of Spartans. (Remember Parts 1-5?)

With the new Assasination animations in Reach, I am sure you (Darknal) has a bright idea on how to make them awesome in fight scenes.

Take a break, start Part 10 next year, because by then, who knows? Bungie might release another new set of DLC for Reach.

Have a break. Take a KitKat. :)

Regards,
(A 3 year old fan of yours),
Dark Neptune. :D

UAstudios said...

Suicidal Cow, does it make SENSE for me to name a username 'UAstudios' be involved in the machinima community, be commenting on a machinima website, and not make machinimas!? or be involved I write machinima's. So don't be coming to me telling me I don't tell good storylines from bad storylines and I am not a retard. I gave Darknal good advice.

UAstudios said...

I also agree with Dark Neptune.

Anonymous said...

Great vid man, this series continues to be my favorite of all time :D

It wasn't a perfect episode, but it was sure worth the wait!

-CrossingStone2

Anonymous said...

The only thing which i hated in this eps was the death of feonaro but everything else was awesome darknal :)

take a break and hold up the good work

Anonymous said...

Cant wait for number 10!!!

Darknal, you are god!

Anonymous said...

To those of you that dont know,(unless i'm mistaken) Darknal already stated a few weeks back that he will not put this series on Halo: Reach. Simply because of the differences in the game such as spartans appearances and maps.
I believe he said after this series he might be making a TFS: Reach.
Darknal can probably back me up on this.

Anonymous said...

infected dolphinie would be a great idea in my mind. Great idea fellow anonymous dude!

ireaddennis said...

Darknal's T.F.S. part 9 is exactly what all the loyal fans have been looking forward too. Heavy action, explosions, epic heroics and mass scale battlefields please our eyes in this production; In case you thought he couldn't top his previous machinimas, you were dead wrong.

Though amid all the epic action and explosions I slowly notice that the dialogues and story line do not draw me in as they did before.

As example was the voice acting of the pink Spartan (forgot his name) not at the same high standard as the rest and so his battle speech lacked the proper voice power.

Loads of situations the Spartans had "convenient" luck and the Elite Leader, after all the boasting, turned sides quicker then a pre-ejaculation of a 12 year old.

Things I did like though is the fact Cosmic goes revenger-bezerker and kills a platoon Elite on his own. I liked that Stormray remained epic, gotta love his solo action scenes. Last but not least I love Conan's return, even if he is infect.

Nuutin3 said...

Hey Darknal!
I loved the 9th episode, actually i love it from the beginning to the end.
The 9th episode was... incredibly EPIC with all the big battles and stuff :) I hope that someday in the future we will see the awesome ending of the Halo 3 Movie "The Forgotten Spartans". Your machinima is the best.

Regards from Finland
-N.

Anonymous said...

hey, is that the end? what hapends next?

Anonymous said...

darknal, is that coming a 10th episode or even a 11th or more, I wanna know what will hapen next, after Conans RRRRRRRRROOOOOOOAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR in the end!

Anonymous said...

6 of 5 stars to part 9a and 9b. it was good, but is that the end?

joebomitcho said...

Great Machinima. Loved the way you added an ODST into the mix made more interesting, showing the huge battle from a different viewpoint.

Nice work on the animation the explosions and the Phantom ships was what made it better part 7 because you needed something big to do that, and you did it perfectly.

Also good the way you made all the spartans look like a team, like noble team, it gave a nice halo reach presence.

overall i really enjoyed it and you can have a nice long rest until Reach comes out :)

P.S just wondering here but did you get the name "Mitch" from my gamertag is the shoots? lol i would love it if you did

Rorschach said...

Darknal / Other people reading this, before I start talking, I'd like to say that this machinima is good. Not the best, but it's still better than a good majority of the machinima on the internet.

Anyway, here's the rant:
This machinima has great visuals, and really fucking good camera angles, the only issue I'd like to say about the visuals is this. The scene where Chief is telling Cortana to hurry up, starting at 5:14 on Part B, waaaay to much shaky cam dude. Other then that, s'all good with the visuals.

Rorschach said...

ONTO THE PLOT HOWEVER. The plot is mediocre. Things that Stormray listed like bringing the flood in, bringing Chief in, making Conan come back (although using the Flood as a reason was pretty clever I gotta give you that) are bad plot points. Hate to break it to you guys, but that shit has been done to death in Machinima's.

Plus, you guys make it such a big deal that Chief comes back, hyping it up, and what does he do? Kill some Elites, the same shit that all the other Spartan's do. The only reason that the Chief is even remotely important to the plot is because he brought Cortana with him. Cortana does all the important shit and get's barely any screen time. However, this is the relationship that they have in the games, which I have to give you kudos for making them stay exactly in character. HOWEVER, you could have simply introduced a new character AI and in the process make the story a lot less un-original.

Rorschach said...

Now, the fact that you made up pretty much all the other characters is great, and I respect your choice to name the characters after your friends, HOWEVER, you should give your characters some actual names. Make Darknal his call-sign and name him, make someone call him by it, it'll make the characters seem a lot more realistic.

My biggest problem with your movies is the script. You are known through out the entire Machinima community for making the best action movies around, and it's true! You make great action sequences! However, the lines that you give your characters are so bad! This is a war film! In the beginning the lines are great! You made it seem pretty realistic, aside from Stormray sounding a bit to casual when he said "What's your specialty, Mitch?" But then you start to slip up at "This... isn't good." No, you don't say that when explosions are going around you. Also, "And a passage will lead the way to salvation." What the fuck does that mean. I understand that Feanaro is supposed to be the wise one, but when you're wise like that you don't just pull a quote out of your ass, you say something that isn't confusing as fuck. "This will lead us to hell" and "Well, this seems potentially suicidal" were good lines though, they fit well.

Rorschach said...

Finally, two things. First, something Machinima mentioned. Two Elites vs Four Spartans and a Sniper. Are you seriously trying to convince me that they couldn't take out two Elites without one of them dying? Feanaro had a god damn shotgun on his back, but despite his buckets full of wisdom, decided not to fire off a single fucking burst of his Battle Rifle, or even tried to move out of the way.

Second, if you want to get any emotion to be conveyed when the Spartan sacrifices himself, make Cosmic do it. Either him or Darknal.

Anyway, that's my two cents. BY THE WAY, before anyone even says to me "u dUN maekz da machinimuh, u dun no wut ur sayign!" 1st, I make Machinima, and 2nd, you don't need to know how to do something to know someone else fucked up.

Suicidal Cow Productions said...

Since im getting tired of the comment "How can 2 elites take on 4spartans", those were at the least honor guard elites, maybe higher rank. But that is on of the highest rank in the Elites army with each Elite being just as badass any spartan maybe better so the fact that they had some trouble with the 2 very high ranked Elites is very understandable. Feanaro's death, going off of what i saw, was a little gay but also understandable. He had just been hit by a grenade that if it didnt hurt him at least blind him and make him unaware for a second or 2 giving the badass elite a chance to suprise him and kill him. The reason kootra was able to survive is unknown, maybe he has better armor or was able to perry his attack just enough to stop him from dying but not enough to stay on his feet. To understand feanaro's line you have to think for a second but in the end they do make sense. And refering to Hudson it is obvious that cosmic found a way into to the base and was probaly already inside before the others, mybe the vahalla base was connected or he entered from the front of the base after Talomane's explosion clearing all the Elites out. Btw killing him off wasnt lazy it added some fire to the story, no pun intended, and made you think, since there losing spartans one by one and have no ODSTs left, that there chances of success is getting more slim by the second especially when the Flood show up. The story is good and the plot is simple, However Spartans vs Elites is not original or them working together is also unoriginal, the reason why they went hostile is original. The humans want the ring destroyed, the elites dont A.) because it will kill there race and B.) They think they can profit from it. The Elites actually fighting think reason A.) and will continue the fight until the humans are gone, until they are gone, or until they are told to stop. The writing is good, not perfect, but good. And referring to Rorschach' What else was the Chief supposed to do, kill humans. His point was to save them at the end of part 7 and not only did he succeed temporarily but he was also a valuble addtion to the team.

Rorschach said...

Dude, think back to Halo 1 and 2. Master Chief takes on Elite Zealots all the time 1v1 and he always wins, and yet 4.5 Spartans can't take 2 Elites. It makes no sense!

Also, they could have just created a new character in place of the Chief and make it much more original. It wouldn't have been as "epic", but unless Darknal is trying to be the Michael Bay of Machinima, plot would be a better choice, rather than epicness.

Suicidal Cow Productions said...

Master Chief only won because A he is one of the best of the best and B because he was controlled by a player. you could have been a normal marine and killed all fo those badass elites. It wouldnt have made any since if a random spartan came out of nowhere they needed a way for him to get there an th MC was a perfect choice since the end of halo 3 was a cliffhanger a no one knows what happend unless you read the books

Anonymous said...

Okay... Machinima.. That comment was completely unnecessary this machinima is freaking awesome he's just trying to make it so it can continue on I don't give a crap if Chief cant do as much as he can in the game, or anything else and their names are not stupid their freaking awesome, myself I am a true fan and always will be take your time Darknal, your machinima's are amazing, the scenes are amazing :)

-Screw you Machinima

Bac0n Media said...

Darknal, you continue to amaze all your fans. From the Zealots, to the Flood. Thank you very, very much for taking your time it was well worht the wait.

One question, will you indeed finish the Machinima on Reach? Or will you come back to the legend of Halo 3 and finish there. Thanks

-Bac0n

2008-2010 T.F.S Crew said...

Well done Darknal, we're looking forward to another 3 years with you doing Machinima ;)

- Chrisnepts, Handy 3000 & MrTTom

Machinima said...

Ok to all the babies crying over the comment I made,man up.If Darknal needs constructive criticism im going to give it to him and I know he appreciates it.So stop acting like TFS is perfect because its far from it.

Machinima said...

i talk a load of crap please do not listen to any of my crap. i am just a random person acting to be someone i am not.

thank you for reading my most important comment ever

A.M productions said...

review

the story is genious and you cannot denie that,the flood additrion to tfs was a big suprise if i hadnt seen some troll post spoilers :p.

i do feel that mitch is a good addition because hes not some super commando and hes not a master cheif,hes just a regular spartan and that is a good addition to the series.your going to have to use mitch right though.dont make him take the spotlight but dont make him a nobuty either.the series should be focused on cosmic stormray and darknal and stormray at this point.

now i must ask you to slow the story down a bit because im starting to get confused. i was heartbroken that timberland died and we didnt know shit about him.when fenaro died i was like WTF.fenaro was the witty ik everything spartan and you should have let him live for a couple more episode.

you by far should not make this on reach because
1.hey guys we just got a shipment of jetpacks.

spartans: :)

it would be wierd if like,OKAY GUYS WE CAN BE INVICIBLE FOR 5 SECOND.

conan returning a s a flood was by far the best twist in the series,or in machinima history.

darknal the story was beast and the twist was great.plot was well scripted.but the story is moving a little do fast and i think it needs to be a little paced.i cannot wait for the next part of tfs.

9.4/10

~A.M productions

Stormray said...

This whole 4 Spartans 2 elites shit needs to stop.

If any of you knuckle draggers read any of the books, then you would know that Chief was barely able to kill a single elite unarmed while fighting in a zero-G area.

Wouldn't it make sense that Honor Guards would put up more of a fight than the simple Field Commander that Chief has a brawl with in the book, and that he barely managed to defeat?

Not to mention - the Spartans have been fighting for what would appear to be days and days without any rest, while these two top notch golden elites were probably just training down there the entire time.

TFS Review said...

Hey Darknal,
I am a long time fan of yours. I have also seen loads of Machinimas. And there are two Machinimas that stand out from all the rest. The Forgotten Spartans and Red v.s. Blue. Both of these Machinimas have something to offer that other Machinimas don't. Darknal having the ability to make these Huge coreographed fight scenes as well as a great story line and Rooster Teeths new CGI Machinimas. I think that the only thing that stops TFS from being the very best is, The amount of time it takes for a part to come out, and the length of the episodes. If you were able to produce...

TFS Review cont. said...

....7 to 8 minute Machinimas every month or so you would have double the fans. Because most people will watch your series a few months ago and think its over because of there being no new releases.
Anyway thanks for reading this. Good job Darknal and cast. TFS for life!

Rorschach said...

1st. Whoever was impersonating Machinima is really bad at impersonations and should go do something more productive then trying to trick people on the internet.

2nd. Stormray, even though bringing up book canon was a smart thing, it's irrelevant. Bungie has said countless times in the past that game canon takes priority over book canon. Therefor, if it's easy in the game, which it is, then it's easy. Period.

Rorschach said...

Also, A.M Productions, so many things were incorrect in that post I don't even think you know what the fuck you're talking about.

Suicidal Cow Productions said...

Rorschach no matter what you say or how you say it just because it is easy in the game (now) doesnt mean it is easy. You say game cannon over rules and since in the game it was easy its easy period which is wrong because everyone started out as a noob when halo launched and everyone here died at least once when fighting the honor guards so dont say its easy when at some point you died in the halo campaign.

Rorschach said...

True, I did start out as a noob, and died several times in Halo 1 against Elites. However, since then I have gotten a lot better and pretty much don't die at all on any difficulty except for Legendary. The same goes for pretty much everyone who doesn't suck a dick at Halo, which is a lot of people.

However, this is all irrelevant because the past is irrelevant to CURRENT statistics.

Suicidal Cow Productions said...

Dont give me that BS if you were comparing to the game you would have to ask what difficulty this is on and u said that "u pretty much dont or BARRELY accept on legendary" meaning sometimes you die on other difficulties and your gameplay and niether does any other gameplay for that matter and if it did the death toll would still be high making MC a noob.And the past has everthign to do with the present

Anonymous said...

Ausome Serie darknal. Einfach fragen, aber was passiert, um Conan?

UAstudios said...

Suicial Cow, if I recall the spartans did take on those Elite Honor Guards and they DID kill them. Chuck Norris is republican your argument is invalid.

Rorschach said...

1st. Yeah, I die on other difficulties, when team mates betray me 'n shit or if I'm just dicking around.

2nd. You're taking my words out of context. I'm not saying "Oh yeah, Master Chief loves to grenade jump and punch Commander Keyes in the face!" I'm talking about the Halo games events. Through out the games, Master Chief has been faced with Zealot after Zealot, Chieftain after Chieftain, etc etc etc... Every time he was beaten them, with no other Spartans, and finished him mission.

3rd. In this situation the past is irrelevant. When we're talking about someones skill you always judge them by their current skill. You don't judge whether someone is healthy based on what diseases they've had in the past, you judge by how he is doing right now.

Caveman said...

@UA studios...LOL and at all fanboys posting shit commetns on here u all need to relax with a nice big cup of SHUT THE FUCK UP...anyways darknal i hate u for killing tamorlane and feonaro (tamorlanes death honestly is a bit cliche and feonaros was....WTF) and i love u darknal for making such epic fight scenes, two scenes in the entire series i hated: "AVENGE ME CONAN, AVENGE MEEEEE" and wen librius attacks darknal but BAM CUT OFF BITCH by cosmic and also will they end up right where the series started because in part 1 there was tht catacomb place with all the flood stuff so tht could come back...plus NO WATEVER THE FUCK HER NAME WAS (spartan sniper chick) COULD NOT COME BACK AS AN INFESTED FUCKING FLOOD STUPID FUCKS idk y but she couldnt
thts pretty much it, and yes i did think it was an awesome episode
PEACE~Ruaridh (u thought THEIR names were weird) W.

Suicidal Cow Productions said...

Okay 1) fuck chuck noris and 2) the argument isnt about whether or not they killed them it was about why did they have such a hard time killing them. Your missing the point Rorschach, The MC skill is not your skill or any one elses skill that matters, it doesnt matter how much you play the game, that information is irrelevent and has no purpose. The way you killed the Zealots or whatever in the game probably WASNT realistic like actual warfare. If Halo was an actual war the cheif would have fought the same way as in Darknal's Machinima i didnt take your words out of context, you just didnt give enough info. And your again wrong, someones health is judged precisly by what they had in the past, no they are not diagnosed awith it but are under precaution about whether if/its return.

Rorschach said...

1. It doesn't matter how the Master Chief fought, if it was realistic or not. In the game the Chief was met with challenges and he over came them, alone.

2. Good sir, you are wrong. Medical doctors are not concerned with any sickness that his patient has had that wasn't recent, unless said sickness had a lasting affect on the patient. The reason why this is so is the body creates anti-bodies, and after the person gets better, the body still remembers how to make those same anti-bodies, in case that same sickness returns.

Afroblaster917 said...

You guys are arguing like little girls.The episode wasnt perfect and the story could have been better but its no reason to argue.SHEESH

Rorschach said...

Dude, it's the internet, we'll argue if we want to.

Anonymous said...

Hey you know, that TFS review guy made an excellent point. if darknal made lots of shorter parts in a shorter amount of time he would get more views.

Suicidal Cow Productions said...

No dude i have people in my family who have to go to the doctor for a "previous" illness that is no longer there but has a possibilty to return.
MC may have overcome the challenges if it was realistic he would have fought , as would th elites, like they did in the episode and it would take some time, like it did in the episode. And as i recall at least one person that you had with you like marines or elites depending on the position in the game, always died when there was a zealot battle. Feanarro. Your not getting the point of how you cant compare to actual gameplay of halo bbecause MC skill isnt the same as your ability to play the game nor will he actually fight like you do in the game.

Anonymous said...

Stormray that was so beast wat u said on the eight u guys r the best machinama makers and u did nothing wrong with the series and i also am making a machinama but i dont no how to do all the computer affects and stuff lik that so i would lik for u guys to hav it.

FlamingFenix009 said...

This was a great episode but in my opinion, not as good as episode 8. The clash between Librius and Cosmic was like Dragon Ball Z shit where it was like animated. Plus I think that the whole war thing was cut short where in episode 8 and the trailer for 9 you focused on hyping everyone up for the final showdown but then the Red Spartan (sorry I forget his name) killed them all? Didn't work for me. I was expecting the clash between the armies to last longer and for Chief, Stormray and Darknal to play a bigger part in the battle. Finally, Librius sending his 2 guards to face 5 trained Spartan leaders didn't make sense to me, neither did him joining them. Depite all of this, it was a decent episode. The war scene, although short was good and I liked how Cosmic took over that Elite base alone. The effects were amazing. I was a bit dissapointed with the episode though...not trying to be a critic, but trying to help Darknal out while making these episodes. Thanks

UAstudios said...

Augh Suicidal Cow, first of all your name is unofficial and gay. Second of all your being unofficial and gay by arguing about Master Cheif and you don't even have the decency to type out his entire name. Your making yourself look retarded... And now your explaining your familys health to us, which doesn't make sense. And like giving us the entire Master Cheif storyline. Point is, you need to expect the unexpected and the unexpected is Feonardo dieing.

PS: Your homosexual.

Doppleganger said...

Dear Darknal,
I hope your not going to steal my idea I have planned for Doomsday which in fact included an infected character. The character who was infected is then turned into the main infected antagonist. I hope that's not what you plan to do.
Sincerely,
Doppleganger

Rorschach said...

Doppleganger, you realize that idea has been done before, right? Plus, he can't copy you if he didn't know you existed until he read that post. If he already came up with it, then that's the way it's gonna be.

Devils Preists said...

The series so far has been awesome. Though few errors in way of characters (Continuity, main characters replaced, etc.) and the small repetitive nature of the last few episodes. I still found enjoyment in watching and if I were a critic for some....company or something I'd rate this 9.5/10 or 20/5 :P. But yeah keep up the great work and i can't wait for the next episode. :D *Note the Preists part of the name here is a small joke, sorta in between The car and a priest kinda thing.*

Anonymous said...

This is my 2nd favourite Machinima ever. I like the war scenes and it is awesome and epic. The some things that i didn't really like about it is first of all, there has only been one single girl character in the entire thing so far and the part when librius and cosmic were sword fighting because it was basically just showing a few pictures. Besides that, this machinima is just fucking awesome (p.s. if anyone is wondering, redvsblue is my number 1 favourite, hope no one is offended by saying this).

Anonymous said...

RvB and TFS for Life
Amen Brother

Anonymous said...

Hey I am firewind138 on xbox live. I know that all your spaces are filled but if some one would die in your video I am pretty skilled and would love to help u out in The Forgotten Spartans. I enjoy blowing stuff up and I am most like cosmic the more strategic type Most like an assassin
and great at sniping. My best vehicle is probably the mongoose because again I don't just charge into the battle I think strategicly so if u ever need anything u just ask and I would love to help

Brandon said...

Rorschach, you're hilarious.

Also, whoever said the Michael Bay comment is right. TFS has awesome action sequences, but the script has been dreadful lately. It's just too blunt.

So, I like the series, but everyone needs to just chill, especially the people raging whenever somebody posts a critical comment. That's life.

Anonymous said...

Just to say that TFS has a very good story but the script on parts can be kinda bad. RedvsBlue has good effects (on one season) and good lines.

p.s. this is the guy who said TFS is my 2nd favourite machinima and redvsblue is my favourite. still, THE FORGOTTEN SPARTANS STILL RULE!!!

p.s.s how did he make all those soldiers in part 9-b? if they were bots then the game would probably crash.

Anonymous said...

the kids dont know that red vs blue isnt a machinima its made by rooster teeth so yea....

Afroblaster917 said...

OK the guy who posted before me.The was the dumbest thing ever said....of all time.

UAstudios said...

Amen Afroblaster. Hahah "Red vs blue isn't a machinima beacuse it's made by Roosterteeth man"

Hey dude TFS is made by Thake Films guess thats not a machinima either.

Stormray said...

This has become completely pointless.

Mother Russia Says Goodbye said...

tbh it wasn't shit but not bad. It need alot more work into it. @people who says this is a top machinma series.
1.There is no list of that
2.I wouldn't rate this on top
3.This episode was went to quickly
4.I think either Spriggs or Phill.
I like the show but yeah for the last part you should also do a sniping Ending, like hmm Mitch kills the flood leader.

Anonymous said...

READ THIS GOOD (!!!!!!!) ADVICE!!

here is one advice:
1. buy halo reach.
2. create your own map (a fantastic multiplayer map as you can create the best of the best of the best movies with Darknal, Cosmic, Conan, Stormray, and don't ever forget that it would be an episode 10, 11... to T.F.S. and don't forget a femail or two).
3. Brodcast it!

the swedish guy.

Anonymous said...

READ THIS GOOD (!!!!!!!) ADVICE!!

here is one advice:
1. buy halo reach.
2. create your own map (a fantastic multiplayer map as you can create the best of the best of the best movies with Darknal, Cosmic, Conan, Stormray, and don't ever forget that it would be an episode 10, 11... to T.F.S. and don't forget a femail or two).
3. Brodcast it!

the swedish guy.

Anonymous said...

REACH IS FINALY OUT!
YES!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Spoiler Alert!!! Don't read this if you havent beat Halo: Reach yet.

Darknal, I was thinking about TFS Reach and the idea came to me, what if you did backgrounds on Noble Team ( i.e. TFS part 4 and 5) leading either up to Noble 6's join day or each one of their deaths. Maybe do a TFS Reach: Carter followed by TFS Reach: Kat and so on leading to TFS Reach: Noble 6.

thanks,

Anonymous said...

OMG I'm the 100th Comment!!!
Woot!
P.S. Darknal IS GOD!!!

Anonymous said...

So what?
I AM THE !01ST COMMENT!!!

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Anonymous said...

101st is the worst
102nd is the best BEEYOTCH
P.S. Darknal is GOD!!!

Shadow Plaque said...

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Cobra Johnson said...

I am extremely saddened to see Darknal's amazing mahinima comment section being spammed by losers and their fan boy comments which, I might add, have nothing to do with the topic.


Thank you Darknal, it was an amazing episode, I went back and watch all of the episodes leading up to the new one so I had it all fresh in my mind.

Everyone did an amazing job in this, especially you and your brother, who if I'm not mistaken did the Cortana animation.

I so didn't see the ending coming, though I did kind have a bad feeling when the flood were shown.

Anonymous said...

awesome episode/series! love it! i think you should bring dolphini into part 10 (as the Flood, of course). the big battles are awesome, but i agree with some of the ppl, u need to slow down the battles, while epic, the last 4(?) episodes have mostly been big battles; however, the way the story seems to go, it seems ur going away from the big battles anyway. Heretics and the Flood! finally! ive always thought heretics and the flood should be in the series. and who will be left behind? big question. but why do i have a bad feeling it's going to be either Darknal or Cosmic?
anyways, congrats! take a break! we can wait!... or can we? lololololo :)
and dont listen to what ppl say, or if ur goin to, make that inspire you to do better or to do something different. dont listen to trash; since when hav u heard it talk to ya when your taking it out?

Doppleganger said...

Dear Stormray,
You're in the U.S. right. You voice yourself in this series and must have a very fast internet connection. May I ask what it is?
Doppleganger

TFSNO.1FAN said...

Seriously now your films are the best ever but I HATE MACHINIMA

Anonymous said...

People say that the fight between Stormray and that Machinima guy was really stupid. But I think its not. TFS is not bland, or boring. Its really as far as you can get with a Halo 3 machinima. The story is original, and I really think you can't do any better. Stormray is simple trying to get the message across telling you that, you think this is dumb or a bad machinima. Well tell you this, TFS is in the TOP 10 machinimas out there, and if you can do any better show us instead of giving "critisism" that doesn't even help improve. Like changing the names, I mean what the fuck? Seriously, its a bit late for that.

Darknal, i love your series, keep it up. I think its completely offline shoots next. Holy, i can't wait til part 10. RAHHRH

Anonymous said...

1. Acquire Halo: Reach
2.???
3.Profit!

blacknitro said...

Stormray sorry about the dumb shits that put down T.F.S its the best machinima i have ever seen i still don't know how you do the hole arby and the chief voices but back to the point i agree with you this is point less and to see people try there hardest to stop the production of the T.F.S and make it look stupid but all it is doing is showing us how desprite they are do get you to stop doing the forgotten spartans so they can try to make a good one but what they don't get is no mater how hard they try they will never make it a good as chris can he has a wide imagination and these guys don't so they get on here and put it down. here is my point they are puthetic and so is any one that trys so hard to stop this. don't leave comments about my spelling cause i really don't care and it will just prove how much of an asshole you are. p.s StormRay dont take there shit you the thakes and the hole cast have done grate so you don't have to worry about what others think.

blacknitro said...

p.s the hole don't leave comments on my spelling is for the ones who feel like they need to say something dumb so i wasn't talk to you on that stormray.

Afroblaster917 said...

Ok i'll read that once I see a period lol.To everyone TFS can be ALOT better!.....wait am I an asshole for saying something bad about TFS :3

UAstudios said...

So Black Nitro if I want to correct you on your spelling it instantly means Im trying to overthrow Darknal through some secret conspiracy of putting down his productions? Just want to clear up some things.

Balten said...

Hey, im trying to save up for an XBOX 360 so I can join the Frogotten Spartans. But I was thinking that in the end The Chief can get infested by the Flood and Conan blows him to Kindom Come!

Anonymous said...

I really loved Mitch. I thought it was great you introduced him as the underdog and great plot fill by making Conan be infected by the flood. Over all very well done and great job on balancing story and action. Darknal I just want to say I appreciate all the work you have put into this and I really can't wait for the next one. One thing I didn't like please don't try to take any offence and I meen no disrespect to you or your work I just wasn't really a fan of Rassak's new voice. I did see that people were confused about who was talking at times so I Figure that's why you changed it but still I wasn't a fan of his voice that much.

Anonymous said...

Hey Darknal,
It's been well over a month since your last post. Any news or updates.

Anonymous said...

Hey machinima sorry im a little late on commenting on your posts but who the heck (other word intended) do you think you are its a great machinima i posted a while back saying i would not play halo until part 9 came out and it was worth it and darknal you are a great guy im a big fan whatever you do me and many other fans will support you good luck and may all haters not post any more because he put so much work into it at least respect that

Afroblaster917 said...

^^^
Im guessing you didnt read Darknals new update

Anonymous said...

darknal what happened 2 feonaro is he still alive or did that gold elite kill just tell me darknal cause he my favorite spartan on the the forgotten spartans

Rorschach said...

Wow, I read some of my earlier comments. That whole "It's in the game so its easy durrrrr" comment was fucking stupid. But still, looking back on it and reading this whole thing again, it's still a bit stupid.

1. Yeah, they're tired, but they're fucking SPARTAN's, they tough through shit. That's what they do. Mitch is an exception, but still, he got some rest after the door shut.

2. Elites have swords, humans have guns. Everything in the SPARTAN's training would tell them to stay put and keep them pinned down with suppressing fire, maybe throw a couple grenades to get them out of cover and then finish them off. What do they do? "Durr ima charge an elite head on hurp durp".